Well at long last all the terrain is done. Pics are below followed by a part set up with what troops are currently available. It gives an impression at least. Am wondering if more cavalry are needed to make things look meaty but it has all been proportioned out so will assess after the first refight.
Various shots in random order thanks to the new updated google blog mechanics that i have no idea how to use at present. Ruperts Blewcoats are right down at the bottom of the page. Spot Tyldesleys, Newcastle, Byron and other assorted brigades.
These lists have been prepared based on troop numbers contained in the Osprey, Peter Young and Stuart Reid books. York Archaeological Trust also supplied some information. In simple terms one troop base is the equivalent of approximately 100 men (50 per figure for cavalry and between 25-35 for foot).
I have also kept loosely to the proportions mentioned in the army list books to ensure superior troops don’t dominate.
Cavalry have been kept where possible to 4 bases per unit. This works well for the Parliamentarians but the Royalist unit sizes seem to have been a little smaller. This appears to work well on the west flank where Royalist units are equal in quality to Cromwell’s chaps but somewhat more brittle.
Royalist and parliamentarian foot units varied in size from 250 to 500 so whilst the figure unit size is generally consistent at six bases I have assumed that the fighting capability of the unit is reflected in its grading under the rules.
Scots foot regiments were around 750 strong so are probably under represented in base numbers but again I have taking their overall fighting capability to be reflected in the unit grading.
Generals listed will be used in the game. All are troop commanders to reflect their limited ability to control matters outside their immediate vicinity. All these rankings have yet to be play tested.
West flank- Royalist right flank/ Parliament left flank
Commander Byron(first line)
Urry (second line)
Cavaliers, armoured, superior, pistol impact, pistol melee.
Byron (300) 3
Urrey (300) 3 - average to reflect his turncoatability
Vaughan (200) 2
Trevor (300) 3
Tuke (200) 2
Molyneux (300)3 – average pistol impact, sword melee; for variety’s sake?
Tyldesley (300) 3
Leveson (200) 2
Rupert (400) 4
Commanded shot (500) 2x 2 average muskets
First line Cromwell
Second line Vermuyden
Third line Leslie
Generally all Determined Horse, armoured, superior, pistol impact, pistol melee
Eastern Association horse
Cromwell (800) 2x4
Vermuyden (350) 4
Manchester (700) 2x4
Fleetwood (400) 4 – average; for variation
Third Line- Scots
Leslie (350) 4 unarmoured, poor, pistol shooting, pistol melee
Balcarre (350) 4 unarmoured, poor, pistol shooting, pistol melee
Kirkcudbright (350 4 unarmoured, average, light lancer, impact, swordsmen melee
Commanded shot (500) 2x2 average musket
Frasers Dragoons (500) 3
I have mixed things up for a bit of variety. Newcastle’s army has been given a mixed rating to ensure the individual regiments are not too powerful. Sources also talk about Rupert putting his best troops in the front line and keeping his rawer troops in the second line. The large regiments were noted as forming up in two bodies apparently.
The commanded shot guarding the ditch will be represented by detaching musketeers from the main regiments and then reattaching them again when/if they retire.
Overall Infantry Eythin
Rupert’s infantry Tillier
Newcastle’s infantry Mackworth
Rupert’s front line Broughton
All foot average unarmoured musket/pike unless stated
7 regiments (3500) 7x6 4 superior 3 average
Cavalry – Cavaliers, armoured, superior, pistol, pistol
Blakiston (500) 5
Widdrington (400) 4
Newcastle’s lifeguard (40) 1
Rupert (1000) 2x6 superior; the senior regiment in the army
Byron (500) 6
Warren (500) 6
Tyldesley (1000) 2x6
Broughton (1000) 6
Ernley/Gibson (500) 6
Tiller (1000) 2x6 superior; veterans and for variety
Chaynor (500) 6 poor; for variety
Frescheville/Eyre/Millward (250) 2
Chisnell (500) 6 poor; militia and for variety
Medium artillery 2 pieces on right flank near Rupert/Byron
Rupert’s lifeguard cavalry (150) 2 Cavaliers, armoured, superior, pistol, pistol
Overall command Leven
Manchester’s infantry Crawford
Scots frontline Baillie
Scots second line Lumsden
All foot average unarmoured musket, pike unless otherwise stated
Manchester (1053) 2x6 superior- veterans and senior troops
Russell (660) 6
Montague (418) 6
Pickering (524) 6
Hobart (662) 6
Crawford (671) 6
2 x medium artillery on left of/behind Manchester
Constable (250) 6
L Fairfax (250) 6
Bright (250) 6 poor- reflecting low strength
Overton (250) 6 poor – reflecting low strength
Dodding (250) 6 poor- reflecting low strength
Thornton (250) 6 poor- reflecting low strength
15 regiments all 750 strong approx - 15x 6 11 - average, unarmoured, musket, pike
Loundon poor- reflecting performance
Buccleugh poor- reflecting performance
Dudhope poor- reflecting performance
Erskine/Scotscraig poor- reflecting performance
East flank Royalist left and parliamentary right flank
First line Langdale
Second line Lucas
All Cavaliers, armoured, superior, pistol, pistol
Porter (50) 1
Lucas (700) 1x4 1x3
Frescheville (160) 2
Carnaby (200) 2
Washington dragoons 500 3
Commanded shot 2x2 average muskets
First line Tom Fairfax
Second line Lambert
Third line Scots Eglington
3000 horse 8x4
Horse average, armoured, pistol impact, pistol melee
Tom Fairfax superior to reflect performance
Morgan dragoons (500) 3
Commanded shot (500) 2x2 average muskets
The project for 2012 is to recreate Marston Moor 1644 in 25/28mm, with every regiment present, using Field of Glory rules.This means a figure scale of approx 1:30 for foot and 1:50 for cavalry. The aim is to demonstrate the battle at the Scarborough Wartorn show next June (weekend of the 30th June). Figures have been purchased and painting is underway. I will be looking for people to come and join in the battle on both the saturday and sunday.
More posts to follow as things progress and Ian Bailey of the Sealed Knot supplied the following info.
Marston Moor is a huge subject and a lot of the evidence is either partial or contradictory (quite common in the ECW!).
Perhaps the best thing I can do is steer you towards some of the better secondary sources: -
General Marston Moor/ECW works: -
“All the King’s Armies” by Stuart Reid (publisher Spellmout ISBN 1- 86227-028-7. The appendices to the Marston Moor chapter are v useful re the various whitecoat regiments and Rupert’s Irish regiments)
“Marston Moor 1644” by Peter Young (publisher Roundwood Press ISBN 1-900624-09-5)
“Ensignes of the English Civil Wars” by Stephen Ede-Borrett (publisher Gosling Press ISBN 1-874351-17.1)
“ECW Flags and Colours” by Stuart Peachey and Les Prince (publisher Partizan Press ISBN0946525846) – this one really is a little gold mine of info
For the Eastern Association
Regiments of the Eastern Association Vols 1 and 2 by Laurence Spring (Stuart Press – ISBN 1-85804-120-1)
Europe Had No Better Soldiers – the Army of the Eastern Association and the York Campaign 1644 by Neal Gray (publisher Partizan Press ISBN 978-1-85818-607-8) not cheap but good copy of eye witness accounts and some very interesting plates including cavalry cornets.
For the Scots
Scots Armies of the C17th- 1. The Army of the Covenant 1639-51 by Stuart Reid (Partizan Press ISBN 0946525501)
2. Scots Colours by Stuart Reid (Partizan Press ISBN 094652550- 1)
Another good source are the wargames rules “Forlorn Hope” – the appendices at the back (that make up about half the rule book!) are an excellent snapshot of ECW troops appearance and individual army lists may help you particularly with regard to the Northern Association, Newcastle’s Army and the Scots.
A good source if you want to buy any of the above is Caliver Books http://www.caliverbooks.com/ which also happens to be the home of Partizan Press! Dave Ryan the owner is a mine of info on the ECW and may also be useful to talk to at the various wargames shows Caliver attend.